The System Structure

[aeaolen]

SO now dark should get this
Enforcer-First day in guild
Enforcer rank II-Voted on by other jedi
Enforcer Rank III- Voted on by A higer rank
Enforcer Rank IV- Voted on by Higher rank
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Templar rank I- Advanced by a duel to a higher templar
Templar Rank II- Duel to a higher templar
Templar rank III- Duel to a higher member oppressor (rank I only)
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Oppressor I-Voted on by council
Oppressor II-Voted by council
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The Council- Same system
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Council leader-Known
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Yes old FRS ranks i belive dark should be run by this because i have been in a guild called <NOK> which was same as dark nto only was FRS up at time but we still ahd these ranks we used all jedi and this willw ork all jedi guild back then would be tought i ran this guild for about 12 weeks and this system worked very well if you have problem contact me plz cause this works i know it will

[aeaolen]

Well seeing how this maybe some what confusing here's how it goes:
Enforcer Rank I - When entered guild

Enforcer Rank II- Voted on by Enforcer rank IV

Enforcer Rank III- Voted on by Enforcer rank IV

Enforcer Rank IV- Voted on BY templar rank I

Templar Rank I- Voted on by council

Templar Rank II- Voted on by Templar rank III

Templar Rank III- Voted on By Oppressor rank I,II

Oppressor Rank I- Dueling a Oppressor rank I

Oppressor Rank II- Dueling a Council Member of the leader's choise

"The Council"-Dueling a select set of council members already

"Council Leader"- Dueling the previous Council leader

Hope it's Clear if it isn't contact Aeaolen in-game

[Eswilin D'Launcet]

I like it. The only problem I have with all of the dueling systems is the fact that someone like Dopp could just waltz right in and take over the guild because of a simple victory in combat. That's the only flaw I see in the ranking system. Now, you can't just say, "Well, we don't have to let someone like him have a shot," because it wouldn't be right to disciminate.

[aeaolen]

That's why i need to like tell people during DARks meeting cuase people are dumb and don't read this!

[namanor]

I'm going to copy and paste this last part and put it into the dark forums so it is easier to find and is discussed by DARK-.

[Hud]

The main post has been updated. Everyone needs to re-read it!

[Hud]

Just added a section on the role of a Council Member. Forgot to put that in there yesterday. Not the most important information, but just wanted to get something documented incase people need a reference point.

[Eswilin D'Launcet]

Hud', I believe that if a new idea (Rule, PvP Event, Guild, Procedure) is to be introduced, the Head Council members should gather their guilds and explain the idea. This way, members who read the forums AND those who don't can get all of the news. Having members tell each other and sending e-mails won't do it alone. Not only will a mandatory meeting on newly introduced ideas into the system get the idea across, but it will ALSO give the guilds a chance to take care of other matters. And seeing as new things don't always come about, these "mandatory" meetings won't always conflict with other game play.

Thoughts...?

[strife]

Usually when a new rule or process is introduced an in game email is distributed about it, a post is updated on the forums and it's spoken about at the council meetings. If someone is not checking or reading their in game email and doesn't check the forums and doesn't attend council meetings I doubt they'd bother to attend a "mandatory" meeting either. There's also the issue of availability. If it's mandatory to be there we'd have to make it a time when everyone can come. I've had a post up for about 2 weeks now on council meetings asking the Light council members to confirm their availability. I've sent in game emails and asked them at council meetings and I think I've had about 2 people respond.... and that's just the council members.

Generally, I think people need to start using the forums more. Probably doesn't apply to anyone reading this message, but maybe we could send out an in game email asking everyone to check the boards regularly. Even if it's just once or twice a week, it'd be an improvement.

[Hud]

As Strife basically pointed out, the idea of the flow of information should be as follows:

Council Leader tells Council Members and Mediator
Council Members tell their Padawans
Mediator tells the Guild

This should be done through the in game email. If the flow of information is followed as above, it should cover everyone. The only people that will be left out is those waiting to become Padawans who are not in the guild. In this case, they are more than welcome to attend the Council Meetings.

Also the Mediators from both sides frequently contact each other atm and keep each other up to date as to what is going on. As is expressed in the main post, this is the main link between LIGHT and DARK.

There really shouldn't be a need to have meetings to share information if the above is followed. Also if you really need to see what is going on you should visit the board.

If you are NOT recieving the information as above, please contact your Mediator.

Poor intel leads to a poor organisation ;D

[cerneo]

I forgot how much info we had in this thread...

[Riacae]

So did I, Cerneo.

[light]

/sign

[light]

All Blue Ghosts, and LIGHT vs DARK Council Members.

A line under system Structure needs to be added for Blue Ghosts with the definition of their office and responsablys on the fourms.

This should be done with the two council inagreement.

Their responsibly to the forum and what they are able to do, as far as banning and removal of negative post that are contraire to the thread that they are posting in. And it needs to be POSTED on this forum, So all may know what authority that they have.
And the definition of what cleaning up the forums is as for as posts that need to be deleted. And we need to define trolling also. And what is acceptable and not acceptable, maybe it been talked about, wasn’t sure.

Some kind of draft with all the above items as far as position and responsibly that they need to follow indicated so that the two council can and ether debate and finalizes, then post it here under the system thread.

Also thoughts on what is consided abuseing their authority, clearly defind, so there isnt any question of rights and restriction on the forums.

1-- what is considering a banning offense? People that are disruptive on the forums, auguring and creating arguments? People out side of the two guilds, that fall under the above statements, no longer in the system?
2-- banning a person, and for how long?
3-- who can ban a person and under what authority? Blue Ghost under the direction of the councils?
4-- what constitutes tolling?
5-- what part of trolling do we delete, if it’s deleted?
6-- what words or action is considered to be offensive? We can’t define all the words. So we must be selective, or whatever the Blue Ghost defines under the direction of the two councils.

more can be added to this list...........

let the debate begin..........................

Blue Ghost – Authority

1---- Authority is granted by the two councils – by voteing for that person in to the office of ether council leader or guild mediator/guild leader.

2---- They do have the authority to ban person that are disruptive on the forums, under the direction of the two council. ( ether by a unanimous vote or at least two thirds of a quorum of each of the two council )

3---- They have the right to remove any offensive language or post that is contrary to the posted thread, under the direction of the two councils.